In Defense of Iran.
6 02 2012What chutzpah, what hypocrisy! Israel with over 400 nuclear devices, with submarines that carry nuclear tipped missiles and intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of reaching Washington DC!
Israel, at war since before its founding has attacked its neighbors near and far, all the way from Tunisia to Iraq. It has even attacked its own ally, killing 34 US sailors.
Israel, the same country that used depleted uranium, phosphorous and cluster bombs in its wars against civilian targets in Lebanon and Gaza, is worried about Iran’s “nuclear intentions.” This must be a sick joke.
Possibly even more worrisome than Israel, is the total hypocrisy of the so-called ‘international community,’ as is the reference given to the US and certain European allies that sponsor every Israeli position, even willing to take the world to an absolute disaster: a war against Iran based on unsubstantiated claims of its “nuclear intentions” –a war led by none other than Israel (again, a country with upwards of 400 nuclear devices), one that has never signed the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty (Iran, by the way, is a signatory).
I must admit that I do think the Islamic Republic of Iran has an absolute right to nuclear energy whether civilian or not, however, I also think it is unwise, if not stupid and reckless, not to mention a waste of time and money for Iran or for any country to pursue nuclear weapons programs. Israel’s nuclear arsenal will not do it any good, just like Soviet Union’s nuclear bombs did not do it any good.
I am not a fan of the current regime in Tehran, though I did celebrate the humiliating exiles of the Shah and the return of Khomeini. However Khomeini ended up a big disappointment for me. He proved to be a very vindictive man full of hate and anger, not the pious man one might expect and hope for. Khomeini in fact, ended up no different than the angry rabbis of Israel.
Of course, the Islamic Revolution in Iran did not sit well with either the US or Israel, who were prime supporters and sponsors of the Shah regime. Khomeini unfortunately set out to lose the support of the hundreds of millions of Muslims in the streets. His indifference, perhaps an encouragement for the US Embassy siege was a stupid, criminal and careless undertaking that handicapped the Islamic Revolution. Khomeini’s ruthless murder of those who stood by him and sponsored his return was something never to be forgiven.
Of course the US was ready with its own plans to teach Khomeini and the young Islamic regime a lesson. Saddam Hussein, humiliated a number of times by the late Shah, was ready to serve an angry Reagan administration. Saddam waged his proxy war, one that lasted 8 years, with over two million casualties and hundreds of billions in “Arab” money wasted on America’s agenda against Iran. Those wasted billions could have done wonders for the development of the Arab world from Morocco to Bahrain, and from Syria to Yemen. Saddam, Khamenei, and Arab regimes all were guilty of being a part of this proxy war against the new Islamic Republic of Iran.
Rather than creating and developing a model of what a modern Islamic state might be, where the people are source of power and authority—a state that might have set a tone for freedom and democracy in the Arab and Muslim world, the mullahs of the Islamic Republic of Iran had other ideas. They wanted to create a “Muslim Papal State” with a Khomeini and Khamenei as the Muslim Pope and the Mullahs as “College of Cardinals” ruling as the “Princes of the Church/Mosque”. Wilayat Al-Faqih is no different from the Vatican—they wanted a theocratic state not a people’s state. A state with the infallibility of the Supreme leader enshrined into law…that is too much to take.
Iran’s interest in nuclear power is not new. It was there way back in the 50s to the time of the late Shah when the US, France, and even Israel were all too happy to support the Shah with support for his nuclear energy plans. The Israelis even developed the security plans for Iran nuclear plants. I am sure if Iran were to establish a diplomatic relationship with Israel all of these threats against Iran would be forgotten.
An “Islamic” republic run by Mullhas is deemed untrustworthy…meanwhile; somehow a Zionist Jewish Israel is completely trusted…what hypocrisy!
Iran, in modern times, did not invade any of its neighbors, did not initiate wars, does not occupy other people’s land is somehow deemed untrustworthy and criminal by the ‘international community.’ Meanwhile, Israel, a country constantly at war, with a leadership sanctions indiscriminate attacks by its military—a country with rabbis who legitimize the murder of non-Jews, is deemed trustworthy! Well, I guess a country with a stockpile of over 400 nukes and angry racist leadership is quite ok…as long as it is Jewish.
In law, the burden of proof lies on the state to prove guilt, and not on the accused to prove innocence. What I fail to understand are the demands by Israel, the US, France, Germany, England and the IAEA for Iran to ‘come clean’ with its nuclear program. Israel, with the support from the US has already engaged in targeted assassination of nuclear scientist identified by IAEA. What exactly do Israel, the US, France, Germany, the UK and the IAEA want from Iran?
If the US gives Israel the “green light,” to attack Iran, it is Americans allied in the Gulf , mainly in the Gulf, that will suffer the greatest loss. In fact, if the US sanctions an attack on Iran, it might as well write a death warrant for the entire Arab Gulf region, including Iraq. The Gulf States—the best US allies in the region, much more loyal than Israel—would go up in flames, and lose trillions in investments, infrastructure and development. My question is: When will the time come for Israel to stop holding the US and the rest of the world hostage?
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“Israel, at war since before its founding has attacked its neighbors near and far, all the way from Tunisia to Iraq.”
Israel has defended itself against Arab attack since its founding you mean? Israel doesn’t start these wars, she does finish them pretty conclusively though as your many Arab defeats are evidence of.
“Israel, ….is worried about Iran’s “nuclear intentions.” This must be a sick joke.”
Why? You admit that it is “….unwise, if not stupid and reckless, not to mention a waste of time and money for Iran or for any country to pursue nuclear weapons programs.” Why shouldn’t Israel also be “worried”? Especially when Iran isn’t exactly as you describe it here….
“Iran, in modern times, did not invade any of its neighbors, did not initiate wars, does not occupy other people’s land”
….because Israel is attacked on an almost daily basis by Iranian backed, armed and funded proxy organisations like Hamas and Hezbollah. To portray Iran as an entirely peaceful nation is untrue in light of their involvement with these organisations and some of the statements made by Ahmadinejad, isn’t it?
Israel doesn’t threaten to, or attempt to exterminate its Arab and Muslim neighbours in the Middle East. The Arabs of course have done both towards the Jews; and the Iranians (seemingly) have threatened to. That is why Israel is trustworthy with its nuclear weapons and Iran is not. Israel doesn’t try to exterminate other groups or countries like you Arabs have tried to do with Israel. That’s why there has been no nuclear attack from Israel despite being at conflict continuously. Can you really say an Arab nation with nuclear weapons wouldn’t use them against Israel in view of the number of times your people have tried to wipe the country out?
Israel’s nuclear weapons are also the reason no Arab state has initiated any more wars on Israel since the mid 70s. But as I’ve already said, Iran (and Syria, and who knows who else has surreptitiously contributed) have been engaged in terrorist campaigns and proxy armies attacking (predominately) Israel’s civilians.
“What exactly do Israel, the US, France, Germany, the UK and the IAEA want from Iran?”
They want transparency because….
“The information indicates that Iran has carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device. The information also indicates that prior to the end of 2003, these activities took place under a structured programme, and that some activities may still be ongoing.” IAEA Nov 2011
They don’t have this transparency yet, why? Is it because Iran has no nuclear weapons and is being uncooperative with its treaty obligations for some reason? Is it because Iran is hiding its nuclear weapons program? It has to be one of the two and if it is the latter then Israel has a right to be concerned considering Iran’s ongoing hostility towards Israel.
Perhaps you will get your wish of an Israel free from Jews once Iran has nuclear weapons but it will probably result in the nuclear destruction of the entire Middle Eastern Arab world also, hence we have many Arab countries like Saudi Arabia begging the US and Israel to attack Iran. I suppose an Arab living in America doesn’t have to worry about the threat of a neighbouring nuclear Iran like the Arab nations and Israel do in the Middle East. They are all worried not just Israel like you seem to be claiming, try asking yourself why.
http://www.theisraelproject.org/site/c.hsJPK0PIJpH/b.2070505/k.BFE0/Arab_Leaders_Decry_Iranian_Nuclear_Program_and_Other_Actions.htm
Israel and Zionism are a Clear and Present Danger to the world…. Time to put Zionism and its cronies and promoters out of business and time for America to declare its second independance… Israel was not created as an exception to the nation and any one who thinks otherwise is a stupid fool.
Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, Jordan etc have all expressed concern about a nuclear Iran. You (in America) are going against most (not all though) Arab ME nations by defending an Iranian nuclear program that may include nuclear weapons.
I guess its easy to defend something that isn’t a threat to you.
“Time to put Zionism and its cronies and promoters out of business and time for America to declare its second independance”
Yes, lets defend Iran’s right to develop a nuclear program outwith its obligations to NPT like you (and the humanitarian government of Syria) are doing, then these Iranian nuclear weapons (if they are developing them) can be used to put Israel “out of business” along with destroying the neighbouring Arab states as a by product. Good idea! The Palestinians could live in a radioactive wasteland with the cockroaches, thankful that they finally have a home free from the Zionists.
Andrew… I give you the right to express your self without censorship because I believe in the freedom of speech and the rights of people to disagree… Show me one publication, or one website by your buddies Jewish and Chrisitian Zionists that allows others views. As for Iran, if Israel has a right to have 400 nuclear bombs, and then let every country in the Middle East has the same number and then we all will be safe… The biggest danger to peace and security in the Middle East is not Iran but Israel with a history of aggression and a history of initiating wars all over the place… Israel is rattling the saber over Iran’s potential bombs because it wants to black mail America into giving it more cash and more weapons and it wants to shake the already shaken American political system, and it wants to shake down presidential candidates… Israel is an evil nation… whose time will come soon… America will not support Israel for ever… people are fed up with the Jewish Zionist Fifth Column in the US…
“if Israel has a right to have 400 nuclear bombs, and then let every country in the Middle East has the same number and then we all will be safe…”
Do you really think that is true and the non-proliferation treaty should be abolished?
The ME will in fact be a lot less safe if every country had 400 nuclear missiles. A child could come to that conclusion.
“Show me one publication, or one website by your buddies Jewish and Chrisitian Zionists that allows others views.”
Israel’s institutions including its press and its internet contributors have free reign to criticize the government, criticize Zionism, criticize anything. One of the few places in the ME that allows this. Read Haaretz if you want criticism of the government and Israel’s policies on a daily basis. From today’s online edition is a piece entitled “The futility of Attacking Iran”. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-futility-of-attacking-iran-1.411840
“Israel with a history of aggression and a history of initiating wars all over the place”
What wars did Israel start?
1948, on the day of Israel’s creation did the Israelis send armies across its borders to invade Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria? Or was it the other way around?
Andrew.. you know better for a man who knows his history ( or you chose to have a selective history that starts with May , 1948)… these Zionist and for the most part “secular/athiest Jews) were born and came from Russia, from Poland, from Hungry, from Romania) they are criminal tresspassers who came with guns and money with intent to steal the land from its owners.. You can have your own history… one of lies and fraud… England simply gave away Palestine to the Zionists and they did the rest… Israel invaded and crossed the Jordan borders, the Syrian borders, the Lebanese borders, the Iraqi borders, the Egyptian borders, even the Tunisian borders… There is no intelligent useful diologue with you… However I will publish whatever you send… freedom of speech… Zionist style..
You said Israel (the State) initiated war, Israel came to be in May 1948 which is why my history lesson was selective from then. You didn’t say the Zionists before May 1948 initiated war.
And the Arabs didn’t have to go to war because of Israel’s creation, there had been a number of opportunities previously during the mandate (which is the time you speak of when intelligently talking about criminal tresspassers with guns and money somehow stealing your land), namely partition as per the Peel Report (an Arab and a Jewish state) or even the wholly generous terms of the 1939 White Paper (which sought Arab support for Britain in the approaching war with Germany) which would see a total of 75,000 Jews entering Palestine over 5 years, any more immigration after this being at the discretion of the Arab majority (essentially an Arab state for the Palestinians that contained a Jewish population). The Arabs rejected even this! Why?
“You can have your own history… one of lies and fraud”
1967 war, massive Arab military build up for another attempt to exterminate Israel leads to an Israeli pre-emptive strike. The Sinai was taken by the Israeli military massively increasing Israel’s area and includes some oil reserves.
Does Israel build up the Sinai into a military area with the aim of exterminating Egypt even after the Arab 3 No’s to peace of the Khartoum agreement (NO peace with Israel, NO recognition of Israel, NO negotiations with Israel)?
No, it gives the Sinai back in return for a PEACE treaty. But only after Egypt (along with the usual hostile Arab states) has again attacked Israel in 1973 (on the Holiest holiday of the Jewish year! Yom Kippur) in another attempt to destroy the state.
Where are the lies and fraud here? Again, what wars did Israel start?
Israel isn’t always in the right but Israel doesn’t spend its time trying to exterminate its neighbours, the Arab states and (possibly) Iran should do the same. People like you should also get on board with moving on, not defending Iran and calling for Israel’s destruction.
Andrew…. you are always entitled to your ignorance, hate, lies and make believe…. you are welcomed here… just for the fun of it… take care and all the best..
“No, it gives the Sinai back in return for a PEACE treaty.”
Is this a lie?